Actually you all seem to be misunderstanding a lot. My argument for visuals is quite different. I was talking about Lore vrs Visuals. - My point being Lore doesn't matter as much as published visuals- people will play the race regardless of how bad the lore written for the race is. Lore is simply a cherry on top, but not the main dish - when it comes to a race. No what I said - people who post bad suggestions are not going to look for good examples. Just as they are not going to bother to search if a similar race exists in the first place. I am not talking about Retro - vrs modern. I am talking about Good vrs Bad. One of the two is clearly better then the other. Both are competing for the same position. If it was a game based on Worms - with that graphics it would fit right now. But, it is not. And such a race wouldn't gain traction. Design elements are very important when it comes to garnering popularity when it comes to custom races. There are the few who simply want to write something for the sake of writing.. They honestly don't want to put in any effort to see it pushed through. Then there are those who write a detailed description of what they would like to see. They might not be artists, but they go the extra mile and at least search for images of what they could possibly look like at least. Then there are the actual people who try and learn to mod and contribute to creating their race. Instead of completely relying on other people. So yes - there are quite a few people who post idea's and concept - for more of a meaningless sake. May not be under the notion of "wasting" peoples time. But it is in the end a waste of people's time. Well - from the rest of your understandings - I am not surprised. Essentially It means - Everyone is capable of criticizing - they are also equally capable of suggesting a race that fits into their own MO.